de tomKronieken

With the risk of this becoming a pong game, I want to make myself clear on one point: I didn't mean that the MS IDE's were the pioneers for Eclipse. What I did want to say is that I've been drooling at some collegues who were working with VB and could use auto-completion (some years ago now), while we were stuck using UltraEdit or something alike (btw, verifying this link reminded me of some scary looking stuff. I'm still not sure if this is ironical or not). And to be honest, jEdit now has a plugin that does autocompletion. But (and this was the point I wanted to make) there had to be yet another commercial entity developing refactoring support before the OSS community jumped on that bandwagon. (And yes, I agree that "OSS" is even stretched a bit here, because IBM is the driving force for Eclipse).

All in all, I think that we are agreeing movingly with each other without knowing or wanting to admit it. It's not the first time that that happens...