JDeveloper 9.0.5

August 12th, 2003

Top Ten Toys for Java Coders in 9.0.5. Hmm, most of these are already a long time available in Eclipse. And Eclipse copied most of it from Idea. Thus, not much on that page that convinces me to give JDeveloper a whirl. Has anybody got better arguments?

9 Responses to “JDeveloper 9.0.5”

  1. dc Says:
    If you want to use the BC4J framework, which is well-covered by Steve Muench (http://radio.weblogs.com/0118231), or you want to write web services for Oracle 9iAS, then JDeveloper is handy, but for general Java development the current version (9.0.3) is not that great compared to Eclipse. 9.0.5 is not out yet though. It was intended to introduce yet another Application Development Framework and have support for visual page editors and visual flow modelling for Struts (http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/905/sod_otn.html), not sure where they are with that.
  2. Jeff Brassard Says:
    The big thing with Jdev 9.0.5 will be the Application Development Framework (Oracle ADF), the new toy for coder is a minimum because i agree with you Eclipse and IDEA have already this toy too since couple months. But no IDE have a big visual framework for RAD et flexibility like ADF. This is a major plus. I develop with Jdeveloper, BC4J and Struts since 2 years, and this combisation is the better solution in productivity and maintenance. This solution is 2 or 3 time faster to develop than .Net development in my company. We have already 4 product in production and the client love the productivity of these combinaison of Bc4j and Struts, imagine when we add more visual developement like UML, page flow with struts, database modeling, and more... Developing will be more funny with ADF I hope Jdev 9.0.5 will be release this month, before OracleWorld Jeff
  3. Brian Duff Says:
    Bear in mind that this article isn't really a marketing document designed to describe all the new features and functionality we've added in 9.0.5... I'm not trying to convince you to use JDeveloper, I'm just describing what I like about the new release. That's the major difference between a blog and a marketing release or technical article on OTN. Several of JDeveloper's existing users will no doubt appreciate these new features too. Since I develop JDeveloper itself every day, features such as struts visual pageflow modeling aren't really personally useful to me, but I know that many of our users will find them so. ADF is of course, the Big Thing in 9.0.5, and it's great. As are a huge number of other features, such as pageflow modeling, UIX/JSP/HTML visual editing, xml schema modeling, web services improvements, and many more. But it's neither my job nor my intention to market these features. It's easy to try the product out when it has been released. I encourage you do to so, then you can make up your own mind about it. In the meantime, I guess I'll avoid blogging articles of this kind in future.
  4. Jeff Brassard Says:
    I Brian, I very like your blog about the new fonctionnality for code in Jdev 9.0.5, i hope you dont avoid this king of blogging articles. I hope you have some other article about new features, new screen shot of the Jdev 10G in the near future. Do you think Jdev 10G will be release before Oracle World? Jeff
  5. Tom Klaasen Says:
    Brian, "struts visual pageflow modeling", "pageflow modeling", ... Now *that* are features that make me want to try that stuff. I just thought that it was weird saying "look what we have", and it sounded to me as "look what we finally have". Please don't think I wanted to undermine JDeveloper as a product. "Has anybody got better arguments?" was an honest statement. Be certain I will have a look now, once it is released.
  6. Brian Duff Says:
    As far as features go, it's possible some features I've mentioned may or may not make it into the preview depending on testing over the next week or so, but I still hope you'll find JDeveloper considerably improved from 9.0.3... Jeff, things are looking good at the moment for a preview release of 9.0.5 in time for OpenWorld. Today we entered bug approval mode for the 9.0.5 preview, which usually signifies the beginning of the final countdown. My gut feeling (again, an opinion rather than the official line) is that we're in good shape to make OpenWorld.
  7. Jeff Brassard Says:
    Thank you Brian, continue your good work, and i hope you have some other screen shoot of the new Jdev 10G ;-)before the release in a couple of week. Jeff
  8. iwaku Says:
    That page doesn't convince me to move away from vim. :)
  9. Andrej Koelewijn Says:
    JDeveloper Toys Tom Klaassen feels that the top ten new toys in jdeveloper are really that exciting. I have to agree with him. When i read it i was thinking, i hope it will be as good as Eclipse, especially regarding the...

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